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arcanemacabre · Jun 19, 2009, 10:45 PM // 22:45

I am reminded of this image when I read this thread:

i farm baddies · Jun 19, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by GhostKairi

So your saying, if i could solo UW HM in 20minutes without Cons or Shadow Form, that i would have no skill, because its not against other players? u r a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing retard. Go rethink your logic mate.

do it then

Yelling @ Cats · Jun 19, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by i farm baddies

google efficiency plox

Efficiently achieve...what?

Why give up playing a build that you enjoy, to achieve nothing faster?

What is the light at the end of the tunnel for running UW faster? Ectos to buy weapons that do the same damage as the ones that I can get at a collector within 5 minutes?

Betrayer of Wind · Jun 19, 2009, 10:54 PM // 22:54

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Originally Posted by i farm baddies

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Originally Posted by toocooltang

Try doa HM, no tank'n'spank, no perma, and no ursan

just to say you did it?

oh wait...,i think yes
http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...g?t=1245451790

HawkofStorms · Jun 19, 2009, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by i farm baddies

example: you'd rather do something with pve balanced (ya your gay) that takes a long time, rather than abusing op skills and clearing through it.

google efficiency plox

Google fun.
Rolling your face on a keyboard to zip through elite areas by mashing 1, 2, 3 isn't enjoyable. If you are playing to beat dungeons to get phat loot, you are playing the wrong game.

ChocoboLIVE · Jun 19, 2009, 10:58 PM // 22:58

To those who say 1 2 3 are noob. On fighting games, what is the different between highest diffecult cpu and a pro player?

Martin Alvito · Jun 19, 2009, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Which gets back to my point: you all can scream at each other for days, but since your opinions are precisely that (with no basis in fact that would permit resolution), the discussion is going nowhere.

+1 internets to arcanemacabre for winning the thread. That one is perfectly descriptive, and a cut above the usual guru thread pic.

/requestlock

GhostKairi · Jun 19, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by i farm baddies

do it then

Ofc i cant do it! Jesus. Its a point, its an extreme example that defeats your theory, Just like Scientology

Hailey Anne · Jun 19, 2009, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Google fun.
Rolling your face on a keyboard to zip through elite areas by mashing 1, 2, 3 isn't enjoyable. If you are playing to beat dungeons to get phat loot, you are playing the wrong game.

I really hate when people say this.
You really think playing a balanced build istn still just button smashing?
Think again.
Instead of pushing 1,2,3 you're pushing maybe 1,5,3 wtf cares youre still button smashing. PvE does NOT take skill period so why the need to ruin peoples fun in the game when it doesnt affect you in the least. Except maybe your little e-peen.

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Originally Posted by i farm baddies

finally, the only skill in guildwars is in pvp. congrats you played honorable balanced against npcs, u r gud.

Agreed.
So stop screwing with peoples enjoyment in this game. Guru is NOT the majority its a MINORITY a very elitist minority at that.

Warvic · Jun 19, 2009, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by ChocoboLIVE

To those who say 1 2 3 are noob. On fighting games, what is the different between highest diffecult cpu and a pro player?

Ok sit down, and listen! If you like PVE you are going to play that. If you Like PVP you are going to play that. pvp players calling pve players a noob have no brains because, they dont understand that PVE players play PVE, because they like it. they dont understand they play this game for fun. its only a game (how much people have to say this?) And yes its a fact that pve is easyer, because AI is easy to counter. And its alot harder to counter other players skill in pvp (It's called skillz) I know PVE players who got GWAMM in 8 month and went on to the next game, they never touched pvp, because they don't like it!

I just hope they nerf shadowform, because I want them to keep some challenge in game. the so called "elite" areas. and Economy is very bad imo
(Zkeys also ruined economy). ah well, it's to late now for that.

MrTickle · Jun 19, 2009, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by GhostKairi

...Just like Scientology

Please don't link make believe with GW

[Morkai] · Jun 19, 2009, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by MrTickle

Please don't link make believe with GW

Because casting Fireballs from your fingertips and summoning Godbeams from the sky is real!

MisterT69 · Jun 20, 2009, 12:11 AM // 00:11

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Google fun.
Rolling your face on a keyboard to zip through elite areas by mashing 1, 2, 3 isn't enjoyable. If you are playing to beat dungeons to get phat loot, you are playing the wrong game.

Umm... that's WHY we play GW. Believe me you'd see hordes of people farming ele swords again if they were valued over 100k+XXe. Farming for phat loot is what pretty much defines GW PVE at the moment. Don't believe me, then see: Voltaic spear farm, UWSC, FoWSC, DoA, and every godamn dungeon this side of tyria. Why would I do a dungeon besides for rep points? Because I'm getting rewarded w/potentially sick ass drops (voltaic spears, demon fangs, silverwing recurves, etc...) Why else would u do elite dungeons if it isn't for phat loot?

ChocoboLIVE · Jun 20, 2009, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by Warvic

Ok sit down, and listen! If you like PVE you are going to play that. If you Like PVP you are going to play that. pvp players calling pve players a noob have no brains because, they dont understand that PVE players play PVE, because they like it. they dont understand they play this game for fun. its only a game (how much people have to say this?) And yes its a fact that pve is easyer, because AI is easy to counter. And its alot harder to counter other players skill in pvp (It's called skillz) I know PVE players who got GWAMM in 8 month and went on to the next game, they never touched pvp, because they don't like it!

I just hope they nerf shadowform, because I want them to keep some challenge in game. the so called "elite" areas. and Economy is very bad imo
(Zkeys also ruined economy). ah well, it's to late now for that.

AI are easily easily exploited but rather resistant against pvp tactic. While the pvp aspect are exact the opperside. Avoiding being predictable is part of the key in games in many aspect. Btw the so called word ''skill'' was part of me into play. Therefore you wannabe words of teaching fail. ^_^V

Hailey Anne · Jun 20, 2009, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

Umm... that's WHY we play GW. Believe me you'd see hordes of people farming ele swords again if they were valued over 100k+XXe. Farming for phat loot is what pretty much defines GW PVE at the moment. Don't believe me, then see: Voltaic spear farm, UWSC, FoWSC, DoA, and every godamn dungeon this side of tyria. Why would I do a dungeon besides for rep points? Because I'm getting rewarded w/potentially sick ass drops (voltaic spears, demon fangs, silverwing recurves, etc...) Why else would u do elite dungeons if it isn't for phat loot?

I totally agree.
People may play through these things once or twice for the satisfaction of doing them but after that yes its for the loot, or the rep or w/e other wise there is no point to doing them again.

Yelling @ Cats · Jun 20, 2009, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

Umm... that's WHY we play GW. Believe me you'd see hordes of people farming ele swords again if they were valued over 100k+XXe. Farming for phat loot is what pretty much defines GW PVE at the moment. Don't believe me, then see: Voltaic spear farm, UWSC, FoWSC, DoA, and every godamn dungeon this side of tyria. Why would I do a dungeon besides for rep points? Because I'm getting rewarded w/potentially sick ass drops (voltaic spears, demon fangs, silverwing recurves, etc...) Why else would u do elite dungeons if it isn't for phat loot?

People who put value in fancy weapons that do the same damage as collector weapons make me lol...a lot.

Especially people who spend most of their time on the game running gimmick builds so they can get these "fancy" weapons.

I life really that sad that you have to brag about some pixels in an online game, while sacrificing any enjoyment? I don't get the logic behind joining in on an assembly line so that you can get the same item that you had before doing so.

I can understand wanting to improve your character or something, but farming for hours on end for a weapon that isn't any stronger is kind of retarded. I just don't get it.

Sad Panda · Jun 20, 2009, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Illfated Fat hit the nail on the head IMO. (And yes this is all opinion.. but how would life be fun if you didnt share and argue opinions?)

Anyone can mash their buttons, and anyone can mash buttons and make a gimmick build effectively. But not everyone can make a build or manipulate previous builds to make them more effective in different areas of the game. IMO High end PVE is taking a group of players to a High End area, and having them be able to efficiently use builds/create builds and successfully beat the area without wasting a huge amount of time or dying every 5 minutes.
Not everyone can do that, in fact most of the players cant do that. And hell Im no different, I can make good builds on some characters, and on other classes I suck ass. I can HB monk urgoz, but when asked to play another build in urgoz I get nervous. Nothing wrong with that. I play the game to have fun, because I like it. Not because I want to add inches to my e-peen by farming and getting good drops and accumulating millions of cybar dollars.
There is a huge difference between players who can use overpowered gimmick builds to beat an area in X amount of time, and a player who can use their analytical and thinking skills to make a run faster.

Spider of the UW · Jun 20, 2009, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by Warvic

I just hope they nerf shadowform, because I want them to keep some challenge in game. the so called "elite" areas. and Economy is very bad imo
(Zkeys also ruined economy). ah well, it's to late now for that.

You do releases that just because you have SF that does not mean you block all damage. A sf tank does not work in all areas ans touch skills and other skills and go through. You say And being able to run a solo UW run to farm ectos using SF build is not that easy. It actually take some work and it is never 100% success. Those who can do it actually took time to learn as practice it as it is all things in life. And that is how the world is. People practice doing something and get good at it and they are paid for the "expertise" in that line of work. So farming in "elite" areas or not, it still takes work and so they should be rewarded.

Spider of the UW · Jun 20, 2009, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Yelling @ Cats

People who put value in fancy weapons that do the same damage as collector weapons make me lol...a lot.

Especially people who spend most of their time on the game running gimmick builds so they can get these "fancy" weapons.

I life really that sad that you have to brag about some pixels in an online game, while sacrificing any enjoyment? I don't get the logic behind joining in on an assembly line so that you can get the same item that you had before doing so.

I can understand wanting to improve your character or something, but farming for hours on end for a weapon that isn't any stronger is kind of retarded. I just don't get it.

People likes how they look. Simile as that. Looks may not be important to you it seems but to other people, it does. That is the beauty of guildwars. You can play the game with crappy looking gear and do just fine. Unlike WOW where you NEED that high end gear the win the game.

Avarre · Jun 20, 2009, 02:47 AM // 02:47

PvE is static, and about preparation/organization. There is a slight degree of mechanical skill required beyond that.

High-end and skill required are not related, due to the fact that parties can be set up different ways. Obviously it will take skill for a team with awful skillbars to finish FoW. At the same time, a perfect-skillbar party will never need skill to do anything.